Published On: Sat, May 5th, 2012

Vedic Sanskrit on Harappan seals

"The Deciphered Indus Script" by N Jha and N S Rajaram

"The Deciphered Indus Script" by N Jha and N S Rajaram

Ever since its discovery in 1921 the Harappan civilisation (also called Indus Valley civilisation) has been studied extensively by archaeologists, anthropologists, historians and Indologists. Of particular interest to all of them are several thousand seals found at these sites bearing both images and writings on them. Despite numerous intensive studies the script has remained undeciphered and the writings unintelligible. This is a major gap in our knowledge of the past.

About a decade ago, in a monumental work embodying path-breaking research on the language, writings and literature of Harappans, Dr. Natwar Jha and Dr. Navaratna Rajaram sought to solve this major technical problem of our times (The Deciphered Indus Script N Jha and N S Rajaram. Aditya Prakashan, New Delhi, 2000, Pp. xxviii +269. Price: Rs. 950/-.)

The Deciphered Indus Script offers a methodology for reading the Indus script by combining paleography with ancient literary accounts and Vedic grammar.

The authors firmly reject all the notions, conclusions and theories which form the mainstay of the present Indology. According to them, the central problem of Indology is that the achievements of the Harappan civilisation have been attributed to a people called proto-Dravidians who never existed, speaking a language that too never existed. The writings left behind by the creators of the Harappan civilisation have been sought to be read by imposing on them this imaginary language spoken by an imaginary people inhabiting this very real civilisation.

The authors maintain that Harappan civilisation formed the last stage of the Vedic Age, often called the Sutra period. This was the period, spanning several centuries, during which great works of philosophy and several other disciplines were codified in the form terse aphorisms (sutras) to facilitate memorization. The best known works of this genre are the Yogasutra of Patanjali, and Panini’s famous grammar Ashtadhyayi.

This identification of the Harappan civilisation with the Sutra period is the authors’ point of departure. This identification, which upsets the chronology given by the Aryan Invasion Theory, is not new. Earlier, writing in 1980, K D Sethna identified the Harappan culture with the Brahmana and sutra period of Vedic literature (The Problem of Aryan Origins from an Indian Point of View, Aditya Prakashan, New Delhi 1980). The authors have fortified this position further with lot of fresh material.

Evidence for this major departure from conventional wisdom comes from archaeology, mathematics, astronomy and metallurgy. It can briefly be summarized as follows.

Archaeology tells us that Harappans and the Mesopotamians of Sumer-Akkad period were not only contemporary but also had trade relations. Among the commodities exported to Mesopotamia were lapis lazuli and cotton. Now, Karpāsa, the only Sanskrit word for cotton, occurs for the first time in Sutra literature. Remarkably, the same word also occurs in Mesopotamian records as Kapazum. The same records also tell us that Kapazum (cotton) was imported from Meluha (pronounced Melukha), derived from Prakrit Malekha which in turn is a corruption of Sanskrit Mlechchha, often applied to the west and to those who had deviated from the strict Vedic orthodoxy prevalent in its Kuru-Panchala stronghold in the east.

Among the more interesting representatives of the Sutra genre are Sulbasutras. Part of Vedic literature, they contain mathematical principles, especially geometry, needed in the design and construction of Vedic sacrificial altars.

The eminent American mathematician and historian of science, late A Seidenberg established that the mathematics of both the old Babyloania (1900-1750 BC) and the Egyptian Middle Kingdom (2100-1800 BC) must have been derived from the Sulbasutras.

This is logical. The very existence of highly planned cities like Harappa, Mohenjo-daro, Lothal and Dholavira presupposes extensive knowledge of geometry and other branches of mathematics going back well into the third millennium BC and beyond.

According to the authors, the traditional date of 3102 BC (or near it) for the eighteen-day Mahabharata Battle is supported by astronomical evidence in ancient texts. Silver ornaments found at the Sarasvati site of Kunal prove that copper purification (which releases silver as byproduct) was known in India before 3000 BC. [Sic: Also silver was unknown to the Rig Veda which shows the Rig Veda to be older than that date. Editor.]

Coming to the Indus script, it is no longer the closed book which it had been for decades. The renowned archaeologist, S R Rao, the discoverer of Lothal and sunken city of Dwarka, had presented a Sanskrit-related development of the Indus script in his book “Dawn and Devolution of Indus Civilisation.” According to him, the language on Indus seals is a dialect of Sanksrit, the script largely similar to the Semitic alphabets that appeared around 1600 BC and to the Brahmi script attested since about 400 BC.

According to the authors, the language of the seals is Vedic Sanskrit, with a significant number of them containing words and phrases traceable to ancient Vedic Glossary Nighantu, complied from still earlier sources by the sage Yaska and his commentary Nirukta.

The methodology adopted by the authors in deciphering the Indus script is largely empirical, resting entirely on existing languages, scripts and literature. They explain in detail how phonetic values are assigned to different symbols and discuss technical issues like homophones and polyphones, pictorial symbols, numerical signs, direction of writings, use of strokes, grammar rules, relation with other scripts, transition to Brahmi etc. with the help of numerous illustrations from the seals. Their decipherment passes a double test: the language written on the seals is roughly known to us. And it uses signs of which many are known from another place and another time.

According to authors, the Indus script is a syllabic script with a generic vowel symbol. It represents an intermediate stage in the transition from a primitive symbolic system to a scientific phonetic alphabet like Brahmi from which nearly all Indian scripts are derived. Composite letters make their appearance. The decipherment of the script and the readings of seals do not support the popular view of the Harappan civilisation as divorced from the Vedic tradition; nor do they support the belief that the language of the seals is some form of proto-Dravidian unrelated to Sanskrit or the ancestor of Vedic (proto-Aryan) language.

The language is less archaic than that of Rig Veda and corresponds closely to that found in later Vedic works like the Sutras and Upanishads. Despite the shortness of the messages, the rules of Vedic grammar and phonetics are clearly discernible in the structure of the Indus script. In style, the messages are similar to the cryptic aphorisms for which Sutra literature is justly famous, familiar examples being Panini’s Ashtādhyāyi, Patanjali’s Yogasutra and Badarayana’s Brahmasutra.

The images on the seals are often symbolic representations of Vedic themes. The written messages often serve to explain the symbolism of images. Writings and images on some of the most famous seals like the bull, unicorn bull, horse, Omkara mudra, seven goddesses, Pashupati, tiger etc. are explained by accurate references to Vedic texts, bringing out their religious and literary significance.

The famous Dholavira signboard also is deciphered and explained by the authors. Some of the seals are shown to contain mathematical formulas from Sulbrasutras, while some deal with mundane matters.

The book gives about six hundred readings and since many of them are repeated on different seals, they cover about fifteen hundred seals. The authors conclude that the Harappan seals and their contents form an inseparable part of the Vedic literature and culture.

It is impossible to overstate the importance of the authors’ work for a clearer understanding of ancient Indian history. The Indus valley people, who until now had remained a silent enigma, now speak to us; and they speak to us in a language that we (a few of us, that is) know— Vedic Sanskrit.

Conversely, we now have an archaeological and geographical context for the Vedic Aryans. Far from nomadic invaders who destroyed the Indus valley civilisation, Aryans actually turn out to be its creators.

It is for other scholars to pronounce a final judgment on the validity of Jha and Rajaram’s decipherment of the Indus script. However, as noted above, there is considerable independent evidence to support it.

Following a detailed study of Dholavira in Gujarat, its excavator R S Bisht has concluded that creators of Harappan civilisation were Vedic Aryans of the Saraswati heartland. Jha and Rajaram arrived at the same conclusion independently and used it to interpret Harappan seals including the writing.

Some other archaeologists have noted that the Harappan civilisation was largely maritime with extensive riverine communications. This is reflected in the authors’ readings of seals as well as hymns of Rig Veda.

The high price of the book may be justified by the large size of the pages, high quality of paper, printing, binding and above all, by the value of its contents. The style is surprisingly lucid for its highly technical nature. There is some overlapping of materials as the authors develop their argument. While this makes the book more readable for average readers, experts may find some portions repetitive.

As the authors humbly acknowledge, for all its depth and originality, their work is only the beginning of a great endeavour. The corpus of still unread seals must be studied along with source material and symbolism. For this, modern experts will have to work with traditional Vedic scholars.

As noted above, this identification of the Harappan civilisation with the Sutra period is the authors’ point of departure. This at once this sets them in frontal opposition to powerful backers of the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) who occupy influential positions in media and academia in India and abroad. That explains the vehemence with which their work was received in some quarters. Extraneous issues like presence of horse on some seals were raised and played up to shift the focus away from the main theme.

Dr. Natwar Jha, unfortunately, is no longer among us. However, Dr. Rajaram is working on the new book they had planned to write presenting more evidence and results. It will be keenly awaited by all those with a genuine interest in the subject.

Virendra Parekh is Executive Editor, Corporate India, and lives in Mumbai


  • S. M. Sullivan

    Anyone who is interested in Indus Script is invited to take part in the discussions on Facebook at the Indus Script Dictionary page.

  • nimitta

    To the author and editor of this article: please stop pretending that Mr. Rajaram and the late Mr. Jha are trustworthy scholars. Their work has been thoroughly discredited. For example, their ‘decipherment’ of the IVC ‘script’ is transparently wrong – they allege the symbols were read left-right, an assertion no reputable Indus researcher has ever made and for which there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They also tried to pass off a “computer-enhanced” (Rajaram’s phrase) photograph of a broken seal as the image of a horse, when in fact it was clearly the hindquarters of a bull. In this image, the crack at the edge of the break was reimagined by an artist in their employ as the neck and head of a horse, when in fact sharper photographs of the seal and its impression very clearly show it’s just a cracked edge and nothing more. To hide this fact, Rajaram made it almost impossible for a non-specialist reading their book to trace the doctored image to the actual photograph. As others have concluded in print and online, this was more than a simple error – it was fraud, plain and simple.

    Consider the implications from these two false claims. If the symbols were read right-left, as every single other researcher believes, they are very unlikely to be the ‘Late Vedic Sanskrit’ that Rajaram anachronistically claims, nor a precursor to the Brahmi script. (Indeed, other researchers have recently shown that the symbols are probably not a script at all, which would explain away much of the controversy surrounding them). Furthermore, without their fabricated ‘horse’, Jha & Rajaram’s horse-centered translation of the symbols on the seal are nonsense.

    I suspect that the author and editor of this article are not unaware of all this, since the controversy achieved significant notoriety when Frontline magazine published Farmer & Witzel’s refutation in 2000. In other words, Folks Magazine appears to be throwing its weight behind a man whose intellectual dishonesty – not to mention scholarly bad manners – has been exposed.

    One more sad note: one does not have to look far to see the damage this kind of nationalistic nonsense does to the sincere endeavors of researchers in India and beyond to understand the rich multicultural history of early Indian peoples. Just visit the Indus Script Dictionary page on Facebook (see Sullivan comment), a fantasy world spawned by the deceptions and disinformation of Rajaram. As the great Indian scholar Mahadevan put it: “Rajaram’s ‘horses’ only prove that one sees what one wants to.”

    • N.S. Rajaram

      The charge was made by Michael Witzel (and his associate) for political reasons in a political magazine (FRONTLINE) not a scholarly journal. We (Jha and Rajaram) responded to it in a later issue of FRONTLINE in which I produced another seal on which the head of a horse is depicted. This seal is not so hard to trace becasue it appeared on the cover of the issue that carried the Witzel-Farmer attack on us!

      All this was part of a covert plan to protect their pet Aryan invasion theory from collapsing by claiming that the horse was unknown in India until brought by the invading Aryans. There is a mountain of evidence now attesting to the presence of horse in India. In any event our readings don’t need the presence of the horse. Nimitta’s claim that our ‘translation’ is horse-centered is absurd. In a book of nealry 300 large format pages, horse is referred to in only two partial footnotes! The horse is irrelevant, especially now since the latest genetic evidence shows the horse to have been domesticated in India (among other places like Iberia) by 8000 BCE! So the whole of this horse argument is a Red Herring do hide the fact that the Aryan invan theory and the Harappans as non-Vedic has collapsed.

      We don’t claim all writings are left-to-right. In fact to quote our book (page 94): “Nothing definite can be said about the direction of writing. …THE DIRECTION OFTEN DEPENDS ON THE MEDIUM USED– WHETHER THE SEAL ITSELF, OR AN IMPRINT MADE ON SOFT MATERIAL LIKE CLAY. In reading individual seals, WE HAVE ALWAYS DETERMINED THE DIRECTION IN EACH CASE, without assuming any particular direction.”

      Other authors, including iravatham Mahadevan, and even B.B. Law haven’t exercised the same care. The Mahadevan Concordance (which contains many errors) consist entirely of seal impressions, not reproduction of seals. This has led to a lot of unnecessary confusion.

      What is curious is the timing of this attempted rebuttal to dicredit me (Rajaram) by raising up this long buried controversy. Is it driven by the fact that his reformulation of the origin and spread of Indo-Europeans and their language based on natural history and genetics is receiving wide support worldwide, driving the last nail in the Aryan theories favored by Witzel, Farmer and their cohorts?

      It is clear that this corresponding (Nimitta) is writing at the instigation of Witzelites for the ‘other researchers’ who claim to have shown that the ‘symbols are probably not a script at all’ happen to be none other than Michael Witzel and Steve Farmer! Not stopping at that, ‘Nimitta’ accuses me (Rajaram) of intellectual dishonesty and scholarly bad manners– again making a personal attack just as Witzel and Farmer did in 2000 when our book first appeared. (The word seems to have got around that Rajaram is currently working on the book GENES OF TIME AND THE BIRTH OF HISTORY and Witzelites probably want to discredit the author before it comes out!)

      It is a revival of their old tactic of ‘bodyline attack’– of attacking the author instead of the writing. As the French say, “More things change, more they remain the same.”

      • agath

        NSR – Speaking about the direction of writing, do you mean to say that the script’s direction is medium specific? I mean any script that we have today is written either from left-to-right or from right-to-left irrespective of the medium on which it is written. Why would the Indus script alone use a different approach which is medium specific?

        • Aditya Singh

          He means that the seal could be read right to left but the impression on the clay material will then be left to right (a mirror image). Quite simple to understand.

  • nimitta

    Mr. Rajaram’s disinformation aside, the facts are these:

    Few scholars, including Witzel, Sproat & Farmer, subscribe to an “Aryan Invasion Theory”. That is your pet, Mr. Rajaram – a pet you treat rather badly. I suspect many of your readers may be unaware that most researchers, both Indian and Western, now believe that Indo-European language and culture are what spread south and eastward from central Eurasia, bifurcating as they progressed past Bactria into the recognizable distinctions of Indo-Iranian and Indo-Aryan. This doesn’t seem to have involved large numbers of people, just as the spread of Spanish language and culture through Meso-America began with the arrival of just a few hundred Spaniards.

    As far as I can tell, Witzel and Farmer discredited you in Frontline instead of a journal, Mr. Rajaram, because you published your alleged ‘decipherment’ in a book, not a journal. (What peer-reviewed journal would accept your alleged ‘decipherment’ anyway?) Furthermore, from Witzel et al’s point of view – and they’re not alone in this – you’re the one whose work is political. It appears to me, for example, that you deliberately ignore counter-evidence and manipulate evidence – the horse seal – at least in part because your ‘historical theory’ is meant to support the aims of Hindutva by supplying them with a (false) rationale for their nationalism.

    By the way, you attempt to mislead readers by claiming that I called your entire translation horse-centered, but in fact I merely was referring to the symbols on the seal you claimed in your book to represent a horse. I think readers are smart enough to see that if the seal is indeed a unicorn bull, then the horse reference in your translation is nonsense.

    Speaking of horses, they most certainly do not seem “irrelevant” to you, Mr. Rajaram, or why else would you have risked your fragile reputation on attempting to deceive the readers of your book with a computer-altered image of the seal, accompanied by a drawing that misrepresented a cracked edge as a horse’s head and neck? Such dishonesty automatically disqualifies one from serious consideration as a scholar, does it not?

    Here’s why I think you do care enough about horses to claim to see one in that seal: without domesticated horses and lightweight chariots on spoked wheels, the IVC peoples could hardly be the culture of the Ṛg Veda, could they. The artists of the IVC loved to depict the big animals of their world – tigers, bulls, deer, elephants – and their spirituality appears to have involved a shamanic invocation and absorption of animal powers. Isn’t it odd that they nowhere left any record at all of…horses? Especially considering that the authors of the Ṛg Veda spoke of them abundantly and relied upon them heavily in their warfare?

    One more thing about horses: you’re incorrect about that “mountain of evidence”. There’s no such thing, Mr. Rajaram. Hardly any archeological horse experts accept the presence of domesticated horses in the Indus before 2000 at the earliest. The idea of domesticated horses anywhere in the world in 8000BCE? Ridiculous! Your readers may not know the difference between domesticated horses and their evolutionary antecedents, or know that chariot horses must be stalled. Alas, there were no horse stalls in the IVC, nor horse tack, or anything at all pertaining to horses. So, when do you claim the Ṛg Veda was written, and by whom if not the IVC?

    Regarding your careful obscuration of the seal in your book: there was no Frontline article or cover featuring the seal when you published your book. It took considerable effort by scholars to identify the seal in question, in part because you provided no reference to it in the book and also obscure the notations in the lower right corner of the photograph. Once we all read Frontline and got to see a sharp picture of the seal before its image was doctored, it was patently obvious that you’d deliberately misrepresented a cracked seal edge as part of a horse’s body.

    As for your ad hominems toward me and Professor Witzel: my sense from reading his work is that he is sincere, scrupulously honest, and dedicated to understanding how the rich multicultural history of India and South Asia unfolded. I don’t sense that he does so to advance a political agenda, unlike you, although those with such agendas have been known to coopt the work of disinterested scholars. Honestly, Mr. Rajaram, pot, kettle, black.

    As for me, I have never met nor communicated with Witzel, Farmer, Mahadevan, Thapar, or any of the other researchers you frequently demonize and harangue. I read about these issues from sincere and open interest, but my own field of study is related only by the slenderest of threads. Furthermore, I’m afraid I knew nothing about your forthcoming book until you mentioned it. The fact is that any enthusiasm I might have had for your books was extinguished by the fraudulent volume on ‘decipherment’. The reason I wrote my comment below when I did was because it was just yesterday morning that I stumbled onto the pages of Folks Magazine online and read Mr. Rajaram’s absurd hokum about Vedic Sanskrit (!) on Harappan seals from the 4th century BCE, when Sanskrit hadn’t been ‘saṃskṛta’ yet. Fellow readers, please don’t be taken in by Mr. Rajaram – no mainstream scholars I know of accept either his ‘horse seal’ claim or his ‘decipherment’. Not one, in India or abroad. That alone doesn’t not disprove his theses, mind you, but does provide a strong warning: caveat emptor…buyer beware!

    • nimitta

      I forgot to address one more bit of Rajaram disinformation. He claims below that he produced another IVC seal with a horse image on it, but there is no such seal according to IVC seal experts. The image he produced is not of a horse at all – it is rather an as yet undeciphered Indus symbol that appears frequently in Indus inscriptions. The part Rajaram misrepresents as a ‘horse head’ is merely an inverted arrow shape with a small nick in it that he says is an eye! Really! It’s all ludicrous, fellow readers – a con job. Caveat emptor!

      • agath

        Mr Nimitta – If you are such an intellectual who wants to challenge NSR’s work better come up with an intellectual debate and fight over there. Don’t be a coward and try to show your prowess in this forum. Even Nicholas Kazanas (a well respected European scholar) once blatantly agreed that most of the European scholars themselves don’t believe in Aryan Invasion. AIT is dead. People like Witzel cannot digest it since it will put European history to shame. They’ll do whatever they can to uphold it. You people cannot enslave Indians anymore with your idiotic theories. Irrespective of whether IVC people were Vedic or not, AIT has no place to stand. It’s junk, scientifically discredited and should be discarded. We’ll fight unto death to completely remove it from our people’s mindset. People of India have an indigenous history of their own. Period.

      • Mouton

        Witzel, Sproat & Farmer are trash.

    • Aditya Singh

      Kazanas has explained that Ashva need not mean only horse it means speed. Ratha does not mean chariot it means a ‘Cart’. Plenty of carts exist in the Harappan life. Spoked wheels have been found in Harappan sites. There is every relation between Hinduism and Harappan life. Rigveda does not have cities because it is older than mature Harapan. There are plenty of Yogis, Pipal Trees, figurines with hands folded in Namaste position other body gestures peculiar to India(amazement position with left hand to the heart and right hand covering the lips) etc, the list goes on to show continuity of civilization, religion and even technologies like agricultural methods to this day. Thapar no longer subscribes to AIT, she does not even say people migrated now she says language migrated! Whatever that means. The key to solving all this was the discovery of Sarasvati and civilization developed around it which makes all arguments about AIT/AMT sound ridiculous. The larger point is that if you do not link Vedic texts and try to look at how they represent the civilization of Harappa then you will never solve this mystery because everything else is fiction. The vedic texts are real, the Harappan civilization is real and they have been found in the same region if you do not try to explain them by linking them then you are being foolish. Were the Vedas found in central Asia and how does one come up with the date of 1500 BC -1200 BC for the Rig veda? That mean that if Jainism started in 9th century BC Buddhism came about in 6th century BC then you squeeze all the development and spread of Hinduism in the whole of India to a period of 500 to 800 years only after which it declines. In this period you developed all the various literature that are believe to have required thousands of years to develop, This is absurd in itself.

      • NS RAJARAM

        Recent findings in natural history and genetics has totally transformed our ideas of all civilization including Vedic India. The Vedas don’t stand in splendid isolation. They arose as part of an immense effort in creating languages and literature that seems to have occupied people for tens of thousands of years after they arrived in the Indian subcontinent from their African home. The Rig Veda should be seen as the culmination of it and not the beginning. Sri Aurobindo noted this nearly a century ago, but science now tells us the same thing.
        The other Vedas are considerably later and may be seen as appendixes to the Rig. They were created at different times, much later for different purposes but drawing on the Rig Veda as source.
        The Indus script and what is says is miniscule compared to this effort. The Rig Veda came at the end of 50,000 years of linguistic and cultural development!
        Coming to specifics, ‘ashva’ can mean, speed, power, energy, etc. Similarly ‘gau’ can mean cow, rays of the sun, hymn, etc. Please refer to Nighantu and Nirukta of Yaska for more.

  • N.S. Rajaram

    TO ‘NIMITTA’
    Farmer is a nobody– his graduate work was in Renaissance Italy. Several articles of mine and Jha’s were published in journals before they appeared in our book. I will contribute an article on the evolution of the horse in India and elsewhere and its domestication worldwide later. Thank you for provoking me to do it. This is one of the benefits of debates like this. I will produce horse depictions from several sites.

    It is obvious ‘Nimitta’ is a Witzel proxy. So he (or she) knows that I met Witzel twice in the past five years, most recently in April 2010 when I gave a two hour talk on the these subjects in Cambridge, Massachusetts. This talk including our exchanges is available on Youtube. So people can judge for themselves. Witzel is unhappy that he could not damage me and in his frustration has taken to calling me a ‘teflon person’ meaning that his accusations failed to stick.

    Witzel is not known for any major contributions, but more as a propagandist and Hindu-hating political activist. He runs a hate group called IER. In addition to his campaign against me and Jha, he is known for his political lobbying in California to have his pet Aryan theories reinstated in California school books. I have some inside information on this: Witzel was trying to impress the California Education Secretary Alan Bersin who was also on the Harvard Board and had expressed unhappiness following complaints about Witzel’s hate group.
    His final campaign was against Subramanian Swamy teaching at Harvard– a major embarrassment to Harvard just before President Drew Faust was to visit India. Harvard is stuck with white elephants (or white dinosaurs?) like him because of outdated tenure policy. His department has been shut down and merged with others under South Asia Studies. He has few students.

    But why bother? After a career of total mediocrity, with his theories in shambles, Witzel is not going to become creative in his seventies.

    As far as FOLKS editorial board is concerned, they will keep carrying my articles as long as they meet their editorial standards and attract readership. They are unlikely to be swayed by anonymous propaganda campaigns.

    • agath

      NSR – Could you pls provide the youtube link that you mentioned above?

      • N.S. Rajaram

        It is in six parts beginning with:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWjxL0N3Xo

        Medium specific was not good wording. Only you should know whether the reproduction is of the seal itself or a seal impression. Try out a few you will get an idea. Incidentally, Witzel, etc have not given up the idea of the non-Indian origin of Vedas and Sanskrit, only the word ‘invasion’. They now call it the Aryan MIGRATION Theory or AMT. If he didn’t care so much, why did he go on that massive California School campaign to save the Aryan Invasion version in schoolbooks?

        They claim it came from Central Eurasia, that is outside India. That is the real agenda, but no evidence. This theory is now shattered by genetic data which Witzel tried to refute but was silenced by geneticists at Dartmouth in 2006. And more recently by Kazanas and priyadarshi. His horse argument is also demolished by science and archaeology. So it is all part of a massive facesaving campaign by Witzel.

        I think I know who this Nimitta is. Best to ignore. I’ll present the latest findings, that is what is important, not individuals. Nimitta is just parroting Witzel’s 100 year-old arguments. Ignore it. Few scholars in recent times have been so completely discredited in every way as Witzel. Why waste time and space on such people? They are already in the dustbin of history but want to save what is left of their reputations. Let history be their judge.

  • Vivaswan

    I am just a common man who attended lectures of Michel Danino, a well known expert in this subject. He also wrote the book ‘The invasion there never was’. He showed us how the Post-Harappan events can be explained without the help of Aryan Invasion Theory. I believed that (after getting convinced), just as I believed Aryan Invasion theory when I was in school (but without asking any questions).
    The thing that irritated me the most was, the propagation of Aryan Invasion Theory, without giving proper voice to other theories. May be it is true or may be it is not. But I could sense the bias in the media, the scholars.
    But people will only see what they want to see, as long as this bias exists.

    • N.S. Rajaram

      The problem today is the same people claim there was no Aryan invasion but insist the Vedas and Sanskrit are of non-Indian origin and the Harappan civilization show no Vedic influence. In other words, there was no Aryan invasion, but all its effects were still there!

  • Mouton

    There was no such thing as a pre-Vedic IVC in the ancient Indian Northwest. Vedic fire altars have been unearthed in areas near the very first archeological site of 1920 putting an end to IVC’s pre-Vedic origins. This proves that the entire civilization in the region is of the same Vedic people as it progressed through its various phases from about 4000 BCE to about 1900 BCE. Some built an urban city culture while others were thinkers, philosophers and literary geniuses who composed the Rigveda and other ancient works.

    The discovery of the dried-up bed of the Sarasvati river in 1972 through satellite photography
    has proven that Sarasvati, the most important river mentioned in the Rigveda, actually flowed
    during the Vedic age which lasted from about 4000 BCE to about 1900 BCE when the Sarasvati river became desiccated.

    The famous “Vasishtha Head” – “a copper item representing a human head styled in the manner described for the Rigvedic Vasishtha has been dated to around 3700 BCE.”

    Rigveda itself says that in pre-Vedic times many tribes from various parts of the subcontinent
    migrated and eventually settled in the Northwest in the Sarasvati-Sindhu region. The Vedic people were therefore not only Punjabis but also people from different parts of the subcontinent.

    Images on Harappan seals from the article:

    “The images on the seals are often symbolic representations of Vedic themes … images on some of the most famous seals like the bull, unicorn bull, horse, Omkara mudra, seven goddesses, Pashupati, tiger etc. are explained by accurate references to Vedic texts, bringing out their religious and literary significance.”

    Skin color: The Vedic people were Punjabis and others who migrated there from different regions of the subcontinent before 4000 BCE and so they looked like what people look like today as far as their skin color goes.

  • atcptrivedi

    Indus Seal symbols do not represent a script.

    Dr. C.P.Trivedi

    The new Interpretation of Indus Valley Vedic symbols explore Indus Vedic Civilization.
    The Harappan symbols do not represent a script, hence beyond the reach of Script experts. It is not a script at all. It rejects Aryan invasion scientifically.
    His book has been published by
    Lap Lambert Academic Publishing, Germany. He has explored the long
    awaited mystery of Indus Valley as well the ancient discovery of DNA and
    Higgs Boson God particle has been termed as Hiranyagarbha Golden embryo in the Vedas.
    “TheInterpretation of Indus Valley symbols and Indus Vedic Civilization is
    a work of a Professor of Botany and environmental Vedic Scientist; He
    was working
    on the problem since 1980, after his Ph.D on environmental pollution,
    where he come across the references of pollution in the Vedas, it has
    turned him towards Vedic Science, and interest in scientifically
    developed Indus Valley city civilization”

    As a professor and
    Scientists, he has gone into the depth of Vedas, Yoga, Upnishads,
    History, Archaeology, Philology, and Religious scriptures at a length,
    to decipher the seal symbols and its connection with
    if any.

    The decoding of the
    Vedic language and his work on Vedic cell biology guided him to decipher
    the symbols. Accordingly the author has come out with an outstanding
    claim that he had deciphered the Indus Valley Seals,
    and Vedic language code. The trinity of Vedic – Indus and modern
    Science confirm the findings.

    The symbols on the seals explore origin and evolution of the creation from single cosmic fundamental energy,
    the life has evolved from single cell and DNA with photosynthesis and genetic recombination.
    The genetic symbols explore the human development in chronological
    order from pre-cosmic condition to evolution of the human
    species in chronological order. In the light of most exciting discovery
    of the decade, the DNA by Watson and Crick 1953, and Higgs God particle
    2012 by Peter Higgs and CERN scientists, it is the foundation of Vedas
    and Indus Valley.

    The Indus Valley gene
    technology was much more advance with development of transgenic plants
    and animals. The rich biodiversity zones in India and Africa is its
    confirmative evidence. The transgenic animals and
    plants can be developed for the domestic comfort, but it may create
    havoc. The DNA is Light of Life with merits and demerits from generation
    to generation. The Vedic Science is in the background of Indus city
    civilization. The Genetic symbols explore Indus
    Valley – Vedic Civilization.

    The
    space enclosed in the nucleus of the atom it impart the gravity to the
    atom and bind atom in series, it is building block of the creation. The
    space enclosed
    within the nucleus has been termed as tongue of elementary particles.
    It has imparted gravity to millions of other particles in series. The
    same has been termed as Higgs – the modern God particle. It has been
    described as
    Creator; Vishvakarma Imaginary primeval Man Purusha; Hiranyagarbha Golden embryo, and Prajapati Lord of beings in the Vedas.

    The term
    God particle is illusive for Higgs Boson, the Vedas have given it a
    scientific name Golden embryo, which appear in the womb of atom, it
    constitute the foundation of the creation by imparting
    mass to elementary particles.

    The
    Higgs field by which the elementary particles acquire mass is
    intermingled with eternal cosmic energy. It has generated actions and
    interactions with positive proton and negative electrons
    with oxidation and reduction reaction, with synthesis and degradation
    as two great mothers for the creation. Accordingly the creation is
    working as a system. Where the electromagnetic bond energy, the sun is
    the source of subatomic particles and the living-beings
    them selves modify the physical environment with organic matter and
    complexity. Indra produced one shape, Surya another: by their own power
    they formed the third from Vena Rig. 4-58-4

    It shows
    that the answers to understand the universe. The Vedic knowledge is
    much more advance. It was discovered at least 18000 years ago, before
    the ice age on the earth as reported by Max Planck
    society, Germany (German news sept. 89 page 25)

    DNA Deoxy ribose Nucleic Acid was named Tvashta and Vivasvat. Its
    electron microscopic structures are on the seals, the genetic symbols
    explore the Indus Valley_Vedic Civilization. Dr. Trivedi has
    presented his findings at National and International conference on
    Human Genetics at CapeTown South Africa, as also at Athens Greece, and
    Sweden with appreciation from Noble Lauret Sydney Brenner.

    The book Indus – Vedic
    Genetics Indus Valley – Vedic Civilization has been published by Lap
    Lambert Academic publishing, Germany, ISBN-10: 3659228095 ISBN-13:
    978-3659228094, and Quest of Creation Higgs God particle
    and Vedas ISBN 978-3-659-22041-8, Dr. Trivedi has given invited talk at
    Indian Science Congress, Bhopal chapter Oct. 2012, National conference
    Itihas Sankalan Samittee at Gwalior Oct 27 2012, and 2nd World Veda Conference 4-7 Nov 2012, Ujjain.

    The
    Vedas are the first word of the civilized person, and the heritage of
    mankind on the earth. Actually in the Vedic culture there was no fear of
    hell-heaven, God or Soul, they were living in
    harmony with nature. The formless creator is the supreme and source of
    all. Afterwards it has been interpreted as Brahma in Upnishad. It is
    misleading to say that the knowledge incorporated in the Vedas have
    revealed in trance during meditation. It has given
    the turned Vedas towards superstitions.

    Now at
    least after 18000 years pertaining to ice age on the earth, we have
    touched the height of Vedic civilization, hence we are in better
    position to interpret the Rig-Veda, the Rig-Veda is book
    of Science, from Rig-Veda the things have been modified as per the
    contemporary situation, and the requirement in Brahaman literature,
    Upnishad, and Purana etc.

    The first
    Mantra of Rig-Veda gives the idea “ I invoke the Agni – fundamental
    energy the supreme creator, he is the source of all. The life has
    evolved from single cell and DNA with photosynthesis.

    The seers in the
    beginning of Vedic hymns have traced origin and evolution of the
    creation in a symbolic way from the fundamental energy. It is an
    essential part of the teaching to start the subject from
    its original source and gradually enter into the depth of the subject.
    Accordingly, the way of expression and knowledge is the same but with
    different metaphors, which lead to the depth of subject concern with
    praise prayers in the background, where words
    indicate the phenomenon at micro level. All ÿ–is have used the
    same terminology of the deities with different metaphoric expressions,
    indicating the origin of solar system and sun as the main source of
    energy. The metaphors will look like ‘headless
    and footless’, without the concern knowledge with reference to the
    context. They have indicated the origin of the creation and nature from
    the fundamental energy. The generation of charged particles is the first
    step. Accordingly the solar system, from nebula
    came into the existence. The earth became the center for the origin of
    life. The formation of the atmospheric layers, generation of ions in the
    ionosphere and formation of ozone layer in the atmosphere are the
    essential factor for the origin of life.

    The white visible-light
    with seven rays and formation of atom have constituted the base of
    creation. The generation of the magnetic energy in the atom and
    electromagnetic bond energy is the main cause of creation.
    The major elements of the creation are Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen.
    They have been termed, as
    MÈtri„va, PavmÈn, and Indu respectively. The nature feed the creation just like mother, under the nature and the natural forces.

    Dr.C.P.Trivedi

    09479720428

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